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Wednesday, February 15, 2012

Is Dodgeball good for PE?


Children playing "Duck Duck Goose", ...
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Having some games ready to play at St.Mary's was a good start to our overall preparedness; however, if we are truly going to change the culture of PE and have more physically educated students, then we must be sure to provide developmentally appropriate physical education (DAPE) and avoid games and activities that are in the PE Hall of Shame. After watching some of us resort to games that we played as kids and ones that are not in the best interest of young children...we will now start to explore WHY these games are not beneficial.  


Anybody without a teaching degree and a B.Sc. in P.E. can "lead" games such as Duck Duck Goose, Kickball, Dodgeball, etc...  You don't have to go to a teacher preparation program to use those games and we will NOT be playing these games while we are at St.Mary's.  We are striving to change the environment of the after-school program by using games that are supportive of the needs and abilities of the students and not just convenient to play because they know how to already play them.  When we're not there, they can play them all they want.  While we're at St.Mary's - we need you to explore and be creative to create enticing environments, choose developmentally appropriate and adaptable games/activities that help you assess fundamental motor skills and teach students to perform these skills more effectively.


PE Hall of Shame (Part 2)  (also available here) was released after the initial induction of 6 games that should not be played in PE class. In class we discussed two of the initial inductees (Dodgeball and Kickball) and why (human targets, isolation, no choice, safety, hiding from others, skill level, etc...) they were included in the initial induction ceremony.

It would help if you added pictures like Jack's post on defending dodgeball (posted below). This assignment is due before next class. (Photo via iStockPhoto & Xanga)

ASSIGNMENT
  1. Please read Chapter 3, 18-20.
  2. Click on the comment link at the bottom of this post to leave your initial reactions (2-3 sentences) to these games and whether or not you agree with them. Also leave a link to your own blog URL (eg. http://www.rockstarpe.blogspot.com  or Twitter handle @syangman or http://www.twitter.com/syangman) where you further expand on your opinions, connect with other professionals, and start developing your own PLN. 
  3. Blog about how the games we play compare to the many HALL OF SHAME games (1994 and 1996) we often experienced in the OLD PE.  What is your general reaction to seeing some of your favorite games included?  If you were to play one of these SHAME games, how would you alter it so that it meets the requirement of being developmentally appropriate for your students?  
    1. How would you justify playing these games today so that it fits in with NYS Learning Standards and NASPE Standards for high-quality PE?
    2. How will playing this game help your students attain the goals of being physically educated and what will be gained?
  4. Be sure to use our photos from lab or one from your Zemanta plug-in or from some other Creative Commons source.  
  5. Due by next class.

One of the most highly debated topics in the world of Physical Education is the use of the game of dodgeball in the curriculum. Many people have their opinions based on their personal experiences with game. Some see it as a rite of passage for students, while others see it as a barbaric sport that needs to be removed from schools. Here is my No Spin opinion:

When I was in junior high school, I was first introduced not to dodgeball but a variation called "angle ball." Dodgeball itself was removed from our schools and the Physical Education teachers implemented this variation so us students could experience it. The rules were pretty much the same; elimination when you get hit by the ball but to ultimately win the game, your team needed to knock a basketball off of the cone on the other teams side of the court. Needless to say everyone enjoyed this.

As a Physical Education teacher, however, I have to decide whether dodgeball would be appropriate to use in my class. I feel that the game helps to develop and strengthen important physcial skills including running, throwing, and catching, while it also includes teamwork and strategy. It is a fun game and should be experienced by all. 
However, it does have its share of negatives. Many students are not as physically able as others and prefer to sit to the side or not participate at all. Plus, it allows certain students to target and bully others all the while promoting the use of violence. The game has plenty of positives and negatives.My decision would be to use dodgeball, or a variation of the game, in my Physical Education class. However, I would offer an alternative game or activity for those students who choose not to participate in the game. This allows students who want to experience the game the ability to play it and gives the other students to experience another activity they are more comfortable with that also shares the same skill development.

There are many people who claim that dodgeball is a dangerous sport and needs to be removed from the school. However, sports like football and hockey share the same heightened risk but continue to be played without opposition from concerned parents. If one sport is to be penalized, then all who share the same risk should be subjected as well.

While it will always be a contested subject, there should be a compromise that will give students a choice to participate in dodgeball whether in Physical Education class or as an after school activity. It could be a decision for the best.
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26 comments:

Ryan Walker said...

When I think about Dodgeball I think about a game biased towards those who are more athletic and better movers. (especially at a younger age) But I feel that if you adapt the game to have more goals, or different tactics that evolve students cognitive learning, then I think "Dodgeball," might have a place in Phys. Ed. As for the PE "Hall of Shame" I think that as a Physical Educator we should such a deep knowledge of more games and activities that these "fall back" games won't need to show up in our classroom. In my opinion it wouldn't showcase our professionalism.

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Dave Sommer said...

Let's be honest, students will be more physically active in a game they enjoy playing over a game they really don't want to play. I feel that "dodge ball" should not be played in a physical education class. However, a game which resembles dodgeball with the right equipment and slight rule changes may be very well acceptable for a physical education class. I feel that as long as all the students are included in the game at all times it is an acceptable sport to play. For example, trench ball includes all students participating throughout the game and is consistently fast pace. I understand safety is a main concern when playing any game that resembles dodgeball but if you think about it their are many games in physical education that could be considered much worse such as floor hockey, touch football and european handball. As a teacher it is your responsability to teach students skills, as long as you can prove in your lesson plan that your students are practicing certain skills then I feel that you should be allowed to play!

Unknown said...

I can see how all these games can be considered "shameful", but there are so many different ways you can take these games and modify them to be just as fun using a lot of the same concepts. One example could be in the game dodge ball. This traditional game distinguishes the students as those who can, and those who cannot. If you take that same game, and modify it into a game called "medic", and use different balls that may be lighter, softer, and a little more difficult to aim, everyone is all the sudden on the same level. In Medic,when you are hit with a ball, you drop to the ground. Prior to game play, you can designate one or more people on a team as the medic, that person can grab the persons hand and drag them behind the barrier. The barrier can be something as simple as a table turned sideways toward the back of each side. This way, it teaches students to be a bit more skillful and work as a team to get the medics out first. Because the balls will be soft and nearly harmless, students are not afraid to try to catch the ball which usually does not occur in traditional dodgeball by all student(fear factor).
I feel as though any one of these games in the Hall of Shame can be taken and transformed into a game of equal or greater fun, while enhancing the skills being used in each game. If you can explain legitimate reasons for the games you play, and how they will help improve students coordination, loco-motor, or general skills, I believe that it is a game worth playing.

djteetsel said...

One thing I can say is that the only game on the Hall of Shame that I have played on the list was dodgeball. We didn't play regular dodgeball it was always some form of it. I do agree that dodgeball should be allowed to be played during PE class. I wouldn't necessarily play regular dodgeball, but some form of it even if I came up with a different name for it. It helps students learn to do a lot of things such as throwing or catching. I think the rules should clearly be defined by the teacher and the appropriate equipment should be used. We used the nerf squish balls for dodgeball.

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Patrick Kaplan said...

When I think of dodge ball in a PE environment I agree with the fact that it should not be played for the obvious reasons that the strong and the athletic will be the most successful and will enjoy it the most. I do however believe that some sort of variation of dodge ball can be played so that their is less risk of injury and so that there is a better way to involve the more "physically gifted"

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Lauren G said...

In class when I was the only one who thought that dodgeball should not be included in physical education I was shocked. I believe it is very dangerous. But it is not the only game that I believe should not be included within physical education! I agree with a lot of the games included on the Hall of Shame list! Not because they are all dangerous, but for other reasons as well

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Nate Fish said...

The game "Dodgeball" I believe is no good for PE, but however I believe games that have a purpose to them and does not involve eliminating a contestant could be good for a PE class. Trying to keep the students always involved is important. With the right equipment games that have the purpose of throwing, dodging, and catching can be effective if the games are set up right and can keep the students involved. I believe as a future physical Educator that as long the game that I have my students playing is working on fundamentals and is not too risky that the game should be able to be played.

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suzrockinpe said...

Bottom line...the objective of dodge ball is to HIT other people with a ball and get them out! It does not meet the standards of the incline rope model, it eliminates our casual performers and does not TEACH any skill. Rockstar PE teaches would find better choices to teach the skills used in dodgeball!

Max Stern said...

The game of Dodgeball has always been an interesting subject. I remember in high school when the rumors started that it was banned and we weren't allowed to play it anymore. Back then it didn't make much sense but now that I know why it is obvious why it is in the hall of shame. I do however believe that with a few modifications Dodgeball could be a useful game to get the kids moving and having fun.

Go to my page to find out what modifications I would implement to make Dodgeball better.

http://physicaleducation89.blogspot.com/

pingeyez2 said...

Friday, February 17, 2012
Learning to Teach PE Like a Rockstar: Is Dodgeball good for PE?

Learning to Teach PE Like a Rockstar: Is Dodgeball good for PE?
You will probably see dodgeball is where there is no developmentally apporpriate activities taking place. These teachers are apathetic to change and have no cluse about the NEW PE and ensuing standards. Yes, many will claim otherwise about dodgeball and cahnge the rules and the type of ball . It belongs in the Hall of Shame for a reason. Question this? If a parent, Principal , school board member , or PTA person walked into your class , what would you be teaching? If it were a Hall of Shame activity , then it may be thought that anybody can do this , and the importance of PE would lose its effectiveness.

A different sceario might be to place a KinBall in the center of a square formation with all students having a ball to be thrown at it . It can be an Eath Ball and the implements are meteors and the throwers are from the planets . If the Kin Ball were to cross the line that planet is destroyed one time . The penalty is to mention something abount the palnet to eliminate the point. Before hand, skills are taught of throw and catch along with strategy( toss ball to a temmate who has a better angle to propel the KinBall elsewhere.

There is no throwing at students , skills are taught , integration is used and cooperation is key. Nobody is blasted and all students are involved. For more activity introduce another game on the other side of the floor . For younger students move the thrwing area closer by arranging cones or makeshift lines with ropes to keep them back .
Gerry Cernicky( retired PE 36 years)

Exergame Lab said...

Thanks Gerry for the great comments and we really appreciate all your years of helping make real PE better.

I am posting your other response here as well so that if they're not on the PEC page - they can still read it:

"Gerry Cernicky It's a combination of both games and teachers. Any , yes, any of these games can be used by without too much background or experience. Yes, there are variations . But, I always tried to instill my activities with enough professionalism that it made it special for both the students and me. That is , ANYBODY , such as a parent or lay person can use these activities. That would mean they do it for FREE and why need you. Classroom taechers could be the next PE teacher or a parent /PTA person. And, save heaps of money. THis is the same mantra that legislators and naysayers are using why PE isn't important. This gives PE that moniker of play time or rec time. One scenario = if a parent , administrator , schoo board member, PTa ,etc. walked into your clas what would they see ? If your using a Hall of Shame activity , then be ashamed., and that includes variations similar to dodgeball , where you aim for feet or change the size of the ball . Thes eout dated techniques are still being used by PE teachers who are apathetic to change , and the ones that of how we are perecieved as a group . I have been through the trenches for well over 40 years teaching and retiring an dif you thinks thta Hall of Shame ,etc. is appoprparite on any level, well, I have no more to say . Except , I have seen and presented at conventions with the best of the best like at Naperville , Velarde in California and a host of others like in the http://www.nationalpeinstitute.com/ and this is PE and the type we can say proud to be PE .Just my take on the state of affairs."

Exergame Lab said...

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Sarah Murphy said...

Is dodgeball good for PE?

During class I did sit one the side that was for dodgeball, however, I do believe that this game is on the "hall of shame" for a reason. When I was a kid, this game was one of my favorite activities to play but I was athletic and a good mover. For the kids who were not like me, they didn't enjoy it as much. Dodgeball is very bias towards kids who aren't athletic. While it is true that it improves running, dodging, throwing and catching; is it worth the danger? The more I think about it the more I am against it. Yes, there are ways around it but their is still room for danger. At the end of the day children are still getting balls pelted at them whether it is gator balls or playground balls. Young kids don't have great aim. You could modify it by playing "Doctor Doctor!" or "Ghost in the Graveyard". However, those games still have similar concepts to traditional dodgeball. Plus, children are getting eliminated and are not active the whole time. A way of modifying it could be to set up different targets to hit instead of bodies to hit. It can still be a team setting but the goal is to hit the targets. This still works on all of the cognitive, affective and psychomotor behaviors but the danger of the game are eliminated. Also, an added plus is that nobody is eliminated so everyone is involved and active! Overall, I think that dodgeball should stay on the "hall of shame" because it is a danger for young kids.

You can check out my blog to learn more about PE hall of shame games and my opinions on them!
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Shannon Flood said...

In class, I said I was for the game of dodgeball. However, it is a very dangerous activity to play since the objective is to hit people. Students should not be a target in the classroom. Many kids can get hurt playing this game and I can clearly see why it is banned from schools. As a Physical Education teacher I would only play dodgeball in the classroom if I made modifications to the game; such as playing trench dodgeball instead because no one will get out and be sitting on the side. Everyone will be playing for the whole game and I would definitely make a rule saying students can only get hit from the waist down. As for the other games in the PE Hall of Shame, I probably wouldn't play these games in the classroom since there are so many more fun games out there to teach a class.

Take a look at my blog to find out more about the games in the PE Hall of Shame and what I think about them.
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Unknown said...

When I think of the game dodgeball I think of a game where the more athletic and better movers are attacking the out of shape and less active students. I've witness children getting hurt in this game and I believe children will always get hurt in this game. I personally am against dodgeball in the PE classroom. The over all movement of dodgeball is a great way of getting the students to run, throw, and catch however a better adapted game of dodgeball should be appropriate in the classroom. I think, as a Physical Educator games that have a goal of targeting other students should be limited. A different version of dodgeball, which changes students targeting other students, should be seen in the class because it is a great way to have the students active and I believe they will enjoy it.
Check out my blog to read more about my opinion on other games in the PE Hall of Shame.


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mkdugue.pe said...

When I was in school I think I only played about half of the games on the Hall of Shame list, but I wasn't too shocked to see some of the games on this list. I feel like some of these games can be played in physical education classes (like dodgeball, tag, and a few others), but they shouldn't be showcased. Different variations of these games would be better to play than by the traditionalrules, but I feel that as (future) physical educators we can come up with better games than these to have in class.

Check out my blog to continue reading about my thoughts on the Hall of Shame games.
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payge.lehman said...

In my opinion, dodgeball has many negative aspects to it, but also allows people to work on many different motor skills at one time- making it an overall positive addition to the curriculum. As a future educator, I would not be opposed to incorporating dodgeball into my lesson plans, however I do think that there should be a few alterations. I think it should focus less on elimination but rather target the skills being used such as throwing, catching, dodging, and teamwork. To learn how I would work this into the game, check out my blog at http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=6228994417268702752#editor/target=post;postID=6862952036205766287 !

pingeyez2 said...

Here is thought , your student with variations for dodgeball gets hit in the eye and detached retina . Our governing body, Naspetalk calls it hall of shame . Hope u have a good lawyer! Are u willing to take a chance ? And what of a huge kid hits a frail student. This may mean an imapprriate activity.

Steven Damiani said...

I think Dodgeball is a great game that increases physical activity and the different abilities of children. Although I enjoy playing dodgeball, and have a great amount of fun playing it, i still think it shouldn't be aloud to be played in PE classes. Dodgeball is a fun game but too dangerous to be played in a PE class. It would be better if you played a similar game with modified rules and game play.

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Unknown said...

I cannot believe I am seeing some of these games on the banned from PE list! Growing up these were some of my favorite games to play. One of the criteria for a game being in the Hall of Shame is, “Overemphasis on and concern about the students having fun.” WHAT?!?! That like saying “you are having too much fun, sorry can’t play this game anymore!” That is absolutely ridiculous! If we want people to actually be involved in physical education and like doing it. We HAVE to have FUN! Why not do things that are focused on fun? Fun brings in the crowds, fun captures interest, fun is fun! Banning games that focus on fun is like banning people from enjoying physical education.

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Unknown said...

It is incredible to think that these games are under the hall of shame list. Kickball was one of my favorites even though I was not good at kicking the ball. I was not always successful in activity games, I'll be honest. But I still made it fun for myself. If I am overseeing these games I will modify it so everyone can participate at a moderate/elementary level depending on the age group I am overseeing. I love dodge ball and was always involved in the tournaments. But by making simple alterations to the game will make students want to participate but it will be appropriate in the school setting that it may be banned in.
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Unknown said...

I understand the thought process behind putting these games in the hall of shame games but i don't agree with completely taking them out of your curriculum. Games like dodgeball, line soccer etc. can be tweeked and altered into games that better incorporate everyone AND different basic skills. Instead of eliminating these games, putting a little though into how you can reconstruct popular, well liked games into a more appropriate version. That way the students get to play the games they have the most fun with and still learn the proper fundamentals.

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Dan H. said...

It is obvious from reading these comments that we have all played dogeball in the PE setting at one point or another, and that we have the basic view on the game. In its most traditional sense, dodgeball so most definitely be banned from the PE curriculum. It is violent, puts students on display, involves sitting out, does not involve much physical activity, and can be downright painful. With that being said I do not feel it is worthy of the hall of shame because there are so many modifications that can be made that can have it meet the standards, and be a respected, thought out and beneficial to the children’s fitness.

This is true with many of the “Hall of Shame” games. While they may not be ideal in their traditional form, their structure can provide the building blocks for very productive and educational classes.

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pingeyez2 said...

Question? A parent , principal , school board member walks into your class at a chance . What will they see ? Of its dodgeball then my response will be Anybody can do that of a parent or school board member Responds and a principal saw small sided games , I would say your hired . It"s not all about just FUN . Use a stop watch and check how much students are active, you"ll be surprised.The world of Pe has changed. It is the best, free insurance policy we have . And that is not a shame .

Exergame Lab said...

I love reading your comments as it helps inform me on your logic and way of thinking. I think it is important to remember as we move into our debate about curriculum and developmentally appropriateness, to check out our AAHPERD and NASPE standards and be sure we are following best practices.

jbonoPE said...

Where do I stand in this? It depends on your situation. For me, I'm a going to be student teaching next year and I don't have the reputation that some other teachers have because of lack of experience. Therefore in the world of PE I cannot take a chance in a student getting injured. I think dodgeball is a good game and a great test of certain abilities such as agility and eye-hand coordination but there are more safe alternatives to test those individual skills. I do believe that dodgeball should still be played in intramural sports or in clubs but with all the lawsuits this day and age dodgeball has no place in Physical Education!

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